The Agile Embedded Podcast

SAFe

Episode Summary

In this episode, Luca Ingianni and Jeff Gable discuss SAFe (Scaled Agile Framework for Enterprise), a framework designed to implement agile practices at scale in large organizations. Luca, a certified SAFe Practice Consultant (SPC), provides both explanation and criticism of the framework. The discussion covers how SAFe attempts to coordinate multiple teams through "trains" of different scales, from team level to portfolio level, working in synchronized increments. While SAFe provides detailed answers to scaling challenges that other frameworks may avoid, Luca warns that it can be a "dangerous instrument" if not applied properly. The framework is often criticized for being heavyweight and over-commercialized, yet it remains the market leader for scaled agile implementations. The hosts discuss how SAFe particularly suits industries like automotive and aerospace, where complex products require coordination among thousands of people. A key insight shared is that organizations should view SAFe as a starting point rather than a rigid solution - successful implementations require adapting the framework to specific needs and evolving it over time. The episode also explores common challenges in SAFe adoption, particularly around budgeting and organizational culture change. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 - Introduction and overview of SAFe 00:01:10 - Background and purpose of SAFe framework 00:04:00 - SAFe structure and terminology (teams, release trains, etc.) 00:12:00 - Application in automotive and aerospace industries 00:16:00 - Program Increments and release cycles 00:21:00 - Common implementation challenges 00:25:00 - Budgeting and organizational challenges 00:32:00 - Common criticisms of SAFe 00:35:00 - Success stories and parodies 00:38:00 - Advice on implementing SAFe 00:42:00 - Wrap-up and contact information

Episode Notes

Bryan Finster's episode on Luca's DevOps podcast. part one: https://open.spotify.com/episode/26cnxrZEWhQRxY3jkwQTb8?si=Fj3VtirDRU-l2xQAomrWUw
Bryan Finster's episode on Luca's DevOps podcast. part two: https://open.spotify.com/episode/36U6glqDPuvkpPwrdD8Axv?si=8T9isqUHS6WBh1aQyZEXGA
Scaled Agile DevOps Maturity Framework (SADMF), a SAFe parody: https://scaledagiledevops.com/
Klaus Leopold's Flight Levels framework: https://www.flightlevels.io/